Aaron Brabham: Welcome to another episode of Stansberry Radio, I’m Aaron Brabham. Porter, as always, sitting in the hot seat. How you doing today?
Porter Stansberry: I’m doing great.
Aaron Brabham: Fantastic. Well, this week’s show we have Joel Gilbert on and he’s the director of the new hit film, Dreams From My Real Father: A Story of Reds and Deception.
Porter Stansberry: I liked his idea about red babies. You’ll have to listen to the interview to get the red babies because—sorry, the red pants?
Aaron Brabham: Red diapers. Red diaper babies.
Porter Stansberry: Red diapers. Sorry, he was talking about red diapers and I got two kids and all they ever have is brown diapers.
Aaron Brabham: Oh, god that’s too much information. I have no kids, I don’t want to have anything to do with diapers.
Porter Stansberry: I tell you, out of all the guests we’ve ever had he might be the single guest that moved me furthest from one point to the other.
Aaron Brabham: Yeah he was—
Porter Stansberry: You’re in for a treat.
Aaron Brabham: Yeah, you guys will enjoy this.
Porter Stansberry: Not many people stump me the way he just did.
Aaron Brabham: All right. We’ve been receiving a ton of feedback from our listeners. Some comes in from our e-mail, firstname.lastname@example.org. Others call in, 855-727-2346. People were hitting us up on our Facebook, on our YouTube’s, on our Twitter as well. Send us all your comments. We love to hear them, even all the hate.
Porter Stansberry: We especially like the hate.
Aaron Brabham: Now speaking of all the feedback, we need to clarify a few things from last week because we were talking about my situation about being an investor and going into cash. And I said, “I’m a little overwhelmed, you know, there’s so much out there. What do I do?” Of course, our listeners interpreted that as, “Why am I paying all this money to be a newsletter subscriber for you if you’re advocating cash?”
And another one was like, “Well, I’m confused that your co-host either doesn’t believe in your newsletters or doesn’t read them.” Let me clarify things right off the bat. A; I’m also a writer for the company.
Porter Stansberry: Just stop. Just stop with all this, oh geez.
Aaron Brabham: Well I just want to let—I’m a writer for the company so I don’t take positions in what our editors recommend; A.
Porter Stansberry: Well, stop right there because that’s going to make people even more confused.
Aaron Brabham: All right, all right.
Porter Stansberry: Just stop. I’m so out of my mind tired of trying to deal with the two or three percent of the people out there who don’t know [censored] and who are constantly badgering us because they interpret everything we say as being contradictory or in some way, shape or form, some kind of hypocrisy. It’s just nonsense. Just stop.
We have been—I have been talking about the problems in our currency routinely since 2006. I daresay there are few people that know more about it than I do. Okay, we got it. That’s not going away, okay. But that doesn’t mean that the only thing I’m ever going to own in my life is gold, silver, platinum and oil futures.
Okay, just because I’m very, very worried about a coming inflation does not mean that I can’t ever hold cash. It does not mean that. It means that I might think stocks are slightly overvalued, they’ve run up too much, and I’m expecting a pull back. So I’m going to have 30% of my portfolio in short-term and T-bills. Okay, six month and 90-day paper, which inflation is not going to affect at all.
Okay, so can you please everybody just calm down and listen to the context of what we’re saying? The two things I told Aaron are; if you don’t know what to do with your money, if you don’t see any overwhelming values in the stock market, then go to cash. Okay, and what that means in my world is buy some gold and hold some short-term treasury bills, which is exactly what we said on the radio. It’s exactly what we say in every single issue of my newsletter.
It’s the same thing we’ve been saying for years, and years, and years, and years. Let me put it to you this way; when you hit a trailing stop-loss and you got to get out of a position, what do you sell to? You sell the stock and what do you get? You get cash, okay. And then what do you do with that cash? Well then ideally you reinvest it.
But what if you don’t have anything you think is a terrific opportunity today at this very moment? You’re going to hold cash. That doesn’t mean you’re long the dollar. It doesn’t mean that you’re thrilled about future purchasing power. Just stop it with all this hyperventilating about, you know—and constantly attacking our character and our intentions. Just stop it.
If you think we’re really scumbags or we’re liars, or we’re trying to fool you into doing the wrong thing, then why the hell are you listening to our radio show? Why the hell are you buying our newsletters? Just stop.
Just to pretend that what—the advice we were giving was heartfelt and sincere, because it is, and then think about what it really means. Instead of trying to twist our words into meaning the opposite of what our clear intention is. Just stop it.
Aaron Brabham: And it triggered my mind. I would rather hear you, who runs a company and makes your money by selling subscriptions, because we don’t happen to have an advertising model type of thing.
Porter Stansberry: And we don’t have banking business and I’m not trying to get anything to do the wrong thing. And if I don’t tell the readers to do the right thing, they’re going to cancel all their newsletters and we’re going to go out of business.
Aaron Brabham: It’s almost like they’re saying, “I want you to sell me every time, no matter what, you need to sell me more, more, more. No, sometimes you don’t need—just listen, I agree with you. Just listen. Soak it in.
Porter Stansberry: Aaron’s comment, he’s a writer for our company so he doesn’t buy stocks, you got to understand exactly what that means or otherwise you’re just going to be filling in our inbox with hate and confusion. We do not allow our analysts, the people who recommend stocks to our readers, we do not allow them to buy those particular stocks. Period.
Now Aaron, he doesn’t write about stocks to anyone. He writes advertising for our newsletters on the side. He doesn’t recommend stocks to anybody. He can buy any stock he wants, all right. Now, he may not. He may choose not to buy the stocks that are in some of our sales promotion letters because he doesn’t want to give the government any fricken reason to investigate why we recommended them and all that stuff.
And that’s just smart. He’s just clearing the path of any future potential legal liability saying, “I don’t even want to get near it.” Same reason why me, Porter Stansberry, I don’t buy any of the stocks that we write about because as the head of the whole company there’s a way to tie me into the stocks that someone else has written about, and I don’t want that connection to exist.
I don’t want anyone to say, “You had a conflict of interest, Porter Stansberry. You wrote about X, Y, Z stock because you owned shares or because you wanted to own shares or because the company was paying you. There’s no connection between the things we write about and our own personal savings as well. There’s no connection. There never will be.
So that’s the way we run our company. And part—we run our company because of the hysterical 2% of people out there who will think up the most crazy, convoluted ways in which we are supposedly screwing people. It’s insane. Look, we do one thing. We research investments and we publish that information.
We do so in a way that’s free of any conflict of interest and we only do so with a money back guarantee. So if you get one of our flyers, you get one of our sales letters, and you think we’ve over promised, or you think the story isn’t quite as good as we said, no problem.
You’re not happy, we give you your money back. There is no intention to defraud anyone. And it doesn’t matter how many times we say it, how many times we spell it out, because out of the millions of people out there that have access to our advertising, a certain percentage of them are out of their [censored] minds.
So just stop. Just stop. If you don’t like what we do, don’t listen. If you do think we have a clue what we’re talking about because you’ve seen our predictions come true, you’ve seen us make money in stocks for people, then listen to us and the spirit of us, meaning we’re trying to help.
We’re not trying to confuse you. So if we say that Aaron’s going to cash right now because he doesn’t see a lot of upside in the stock market, and then in the same breath we say, “Yeah, probably going to buy some Saingotten’s gold coins too it’s because he’s hedging his dollar exposure, which is what I’ve written about in my newsletter for years, and years, and years, and years, and years.
If you do want to go to cash, if you don’t trust the bond market with a ten year yield at 1.9—I wouldn’t—there’s no way I would buy bonds. Now, listen to what I just said, I said, bonds. I didn’t say, notes, I didn’t say bills. I said, bonds. Long-term fixed income. I don’t recommend that to anybody right now. I’ve written about it for years.
That doesn’t mean you can’t ever hold cash. Cash can just be, you know, a cash deposit. A CD at a bank. Or, you know, the way I think about it is treasury bills, 30-day paper, 90-day paper, something like that.
Anyway, if you’re gonna have cash you should hedge it with gold. And we have explained this ad nauseam over the years and years and years. So in other words, it just blew our top when some guy writes in and says, “Why are you telling people to invest in dollars when you’re saying the end of America’s coming and there’s gonna be inflation, blah, blah, blah.”
Stop. Stop it. It’s like we want to—we’re only gonna pay attention to the ten seconds that you said that violates whatever it is that we’re upset about, you know. We’re gonna ignore the other ten minutes of your conversation. Stop it. And Aaron, you stop paying attention to these people.
Aaron Brabham: Yeah, it’s a good lesson for me too. And another thing that we always get and, you know, I know you’ve talked about it before, but Doc Eifrig says, you know, the country’s on a comeback, blah, blah, blah. You don’t pay your other analysts to follow your opinion. That’s very important.
Porter Stansberry: Right. Sometimes smart people will disagree. Sometimes they will. And by the way, if you’re long gold or something, wouldn’t you want to know what the counter argument is? Would you want to know why a smart guy is saying, “I think gold’s gone too far.” What’s the counter argument? There’s got to be a counter argument.
Aaron Brabham: Always one.
Porter Stansberry: Right. Don’t you want to know what it is?
Aaron Brabham: And then to make your own decision based on very good information. Okay just—
Porter Stansberry: But listen, I’m telling you the percentage of people that are our subscribers that have this problem is infinitesimal. We get all lathered about it, right, because we think it impugns our character.
Aaron Brabham: It does. It bothered me. When I got these this weekend I was like—
Porter Stansberry: You can’t let it bother you.
Aaron Brabham: Because I was like, they missed the whole point of the interview, of our whole education piece.
Porter Stansberry: In our business with tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of subscribers, and listeners, and readers, we are never going to get out of the weeds. There are always going to be thousands, maybe ten thousand, maybe hundreds of thousands of people who are willfully ignorant and there is nothing we can do to help them.
Aaron Brabham: That’s a good lesson for me. I like that.
Porter Stansberry: Just ignore them. And when they call in, I’m just going to tell them, “Just stop it. Come on, give me a break.”
Aaron Brabham: Porter, one of our recent guests we had on the show got in a little bit of hot water last week. Good old Dinesh D’Souza.
Porter Stansberry: Yeah he might qualify now.
Aaron Brabham: I think he might. Well, we’re not going to nominate him yet, but he got in a little bit of hot water because he’s—he was the president of King’s College.
Porter Stansberry: So he’s a member of this very conservative religious group in America. These deeply fundamentalist Christian folks who are also very conservative in their politics. And apparently he started seeing a 29-year-old very attractive woman. Now, I’m not clear on whether or not she worked for him or—
Aaron Brabham: I couldn’t dig up that information.
Porter Stansberry: And I don’t want to make any allegations.
Aaron Brabham: I don’t either.
Porter Stansberry: As far as I can tell, there’s nothing particular wrong with the relationship they’re having except for he’s in his fifties and she’s in her twenties, which I could only tell you sort of rhymes with a lot of the Christian pastor’s problems.
Aaron Brabham: It sure does.
Porter Stansberry: Right. They tend to have a problem keeping their wee wee in their pants, a lot of these fundamentalist guys. And look at the history of the Mormon Church right, after Joe Smith got a bunch of power he decided he wanted younger women too and then he came up with—er, sorry, God told him about celestial marriage and he could have all the young women he wanted.
There seems to be some kind of a connection between fundamentalists and the attraction of young women, although I admit completely I find young women very attractive as well.
Aaron Brabham: As do I.
Porter Stansberry: But I’m married. And I’ve made promises to my wife and she gave me children and I’m not breaking those promises.
Aaron Brabham: And unfortunately for Dinesh he’s still married.
Porter Stansberry: Yeah. And that’s the—oh—
Aaron Brabham: That’s the issue.
Porter Stansberry: Whoops, we didn’t bring that up.
Aaron Brabham: No. He brought his fiancée to one of these Christian Coalition, like, conferences.
Porter Stansberry: He called her his fiancé.
Aaron Brabham: Yes.
Porter Stansberry: But he’s still married.
Aaron Brabham: But he’s still married. He’s separated from his wife for two years but he’s still married.
Porter Stansberry: Let’s be clear about this. He and his wife apparently had separated.
Aaron Brabham: Yes.
Porter Stansberry: And she’s not making any allegations that he was having an affair. So there may be nothing wrong here, it may just be a bunch of smoke. I don’t have any problem with a guy who’s separated with his wife seeing another woman.
Aaron Brabham: I don’t either personally.
Porter Stansberry: That’s what happens. That’s why you get separated right. So maybe he’s not a scumbag at all. Maybe we’re overreacting.
Aaron Brabham: Well it’s—I think the only issue is, first of all, it’s the circle of friends he has because they are some judgers and they are judging the hell out of him is what it really comes down to, right.
Porter Stansberry: They fired him.
Aaron Brabham: Yeah, basically. They’re like—yeah I mean it was the same day it hit the newswire. He was out of there.
Porter Stansberry: These Christians.
Aaron Brabham: We’re not going there.
Porter Stansberry: We’re not going there but you got to give me this, and this is not a religious point. It’s a point about fanaticism. The deeper you are into any subculture, right, the less tolerant you become.
Aaron Brabham: Absolutely.
Porter Stansberry: No matter what. So I’m really deep in the financial subculture of the United States. So I have no tolerance when it comes to things about—things regarding cheating on money. So I don’t have any tolerance for inflation. I don’t have any tolerance for people who can’t emotionally get their heads around stop-losses.
I don’t have any tolerance for people who can’t make sound financial choices. They got to get all emotional about it. It doesn’t make sense to me. I’ll get all upset about it. I get lathered up about it, right. No tolerance for that because I’m deep in a subculture.
Let me repeat, I’m not making a criticism of religious people. So please.
Aaron Brabham: It could be anything.
Porter Stansberry: Just stop before we start.
Aaron Brabham: Please do.
Porter Stansberry: What I’m saying is, it’s funny that this guy’s in a subculture that preaches forgiveness and tolerance.
Aaron Brabham: And he got zero. Zero to the point where they were like, “Get out of the college.” And he did that day.
Porter Stansberry: Yeah. He’s done. Now listen, ordinarily I would have some sympathy for him, but he was such an [censored] on our program I got none. Sorry.
Aaron Brabham: Ignoramus.
Porter Stansberry: You don’t get on to a discussion of views with people and start insulting them. That’s not what you do. You’ll never, ever hear me insulting someone in the middle of a conversation about ideas. You argue the ideas. You don’t argue the person.
Aaron Brabham: Yeah. He blasted you personally. Ignoramus. Instead of, “Your ideas are,” he’s like, “You’re an ignoramus.”
Porter Stansberry: He called me stupid.
Aaron Brabham: He did.
Porter Stansberry: Actually, I’m still wounded.
Aaron Brabham: You’re smart enough to know not to have a fiancée when you’re married and take her to a Christian meeting. So okay, we’ll see who’s ignoramus here in this one Dinesh. All right, on the hotline—
Porter Stansberry: Rolling Stones living in a glass house.
Aaron Brabham: On the hotline we have our guest, Joel Gilbert. Joel is the director of the new hit film, Dreams From My Real Father: A Story of Reds and Deception. He’s an acclaimed writer, musician, Middle East policy and Islamism expert. Joel, welcome to Stansberry Radio.
Porter Stansberry: All right, Joel. Quick question, why did you want to make a documentary about Obama? He seems to be a pretty popular figure.
Joel Gilbert: Well, I found out that there was a huge gap between his public narrative of who he was, where he came from, and what his political foundation was, and the reality. And it was so great that I felt that I had to make a film about it to tell this story because Obama—his style is to minimize, misdirect and outright lie.
Porter Stansberry: Hang on, stop right there. Are you saying that there’s a major national politician who lies?
Joel Gilbert: Well, I think that the public puts up with some fudging and little lies here and there, but Obama took it to a level which is subterfuge and outright distortion. And it’s unacceptable to manipulate the electorate to the extent to which Obama has done.
Porter Stansberry: All right, hit us with your best shot. What’s your crowning example of this supposedly unique characteristic that Obama has as opposed to all the other scumbags in office?
Joel Gilbert: Well, he promoted a false background. He claimed that his father was a goat herder from Kenya so he would bring people together, he was above politics. This was the narrative. And he talked about change. No one—
Porter Stansberry: His dad was some kind of Communist organizer in Kenya, right?
Joel Gilbert: No. His real father was an American Communist Party propagandist under FBI surveillance for 20 years named Frank Marshall Davis. So Obama lied, first of all, about who his father was. And he lied because it would reveal an indoctrination in this Marxist agenda that he got from his real father.
Porter Stansberry: Hang on, you lost me there because I was pretty sure he was—that Obama was half black and half white and his father was from Kenya.
Joel Gilbert: Well, you’ve been fooled along with everybody else. Obama was raised—he admits he was raised by a man named Frank Marshall Davis from age 9 to 18. I’ve shown all the evidence that the Kenyan Obama was simply a sham marriage. They recruited this Kenyan student to cover up an affair between Obama’s mother and an American Communist Party propagandist named Frank Marshall Davis.
In Obama’s book he talks about Frank 22 times, 2,500 words. It’s the man who raised him and indoctrinated him into Marxism. Obama arrives at Occidental College at age 18 as a committed Marxist, in his own words, to study with Marxist professors.
So my film, Dreams From My Real Father, shows that Obama’s been following the dreams from his real Communist father his entire life.
Porter Stansberry: I got you. So you’re talking about Obama’s step father, in effect.
Joel Gilbert: No. I’m talking about his biological father—was Frank Marshall Davis. He had an affair with Obama’s mother. I have all the photos, intimate photos in the film.
Porter Stansberry: Oh, I’m really lost now. This is all new to me.
Joel Gilbert: Well, I guess you haven’t seen my film.
Aaron Brabham: We didn’t have a chance to get an advanced copy and I don’t think it’s showing anywhere where we live.
Porter Stansberry: I think we have to go see it now because this is all new.
Aaron Brabham: Oh, we have to see it. Yes.
Porter Stansberry: So this other guy, was he also a black man?
Joel Gilbert: African American. He came out of Chicago. He was a journalist in Chicago. He worked in Chicago with Valerie Jarrett’s father-in-law, Vernon Jarrett, on the Communist newspaper, The Chicago Star. Davis, Obama’s real father, was ordered to Hawaii by the Kremlin to help start a Communist takeover of the island in 1948. The Soviet Union felt that U.S. naval forces in Hawaii were an obstacle to Soviet expansion in Asia.
So his father was a Soviet agent under FBI surveillance and he had an affair with Obama’s mother. Obama’s grandfather got this Kenyan student named Barack Obama to cover up this affair with a sham marriage. And then Obama is raised by the real father. He knew it from a very young age, and he was very close to him his entire life.
Porter Stansberry: Now, this is a fascinating story. So do you have any evidence for the, like, I don’t know, the guy doesn’t even have a birth certificate so I’m not surprised you can’t find any real leaks. Does he—does Obama look like this other guy?
Joel Gilbert: He looks exactly like him. He’s a spitting image. He looks nothing like the Kenyan at all.
Porter Stansberry: Oh, fascinating.
Joel Gilbert: We have proved in the film—we start with Obama’s story—is that when he was three years old his loving family was broken up because the Kenyan went to Harvard, could not refuse a Harvard education. That’s been Obama’s story for several years. We prove and we show that Obama’s mother was enrolled at the University of Washington in Seattle three weeks after he was born, while the Kenyan remained in Hawaii.
We have a lot of evidence, documentation that the Kenyan was a sham marriage. And believe it or not, Obama three weeks ago on the campaign trail, he said, and he tweeted, “I was born to a single mother in Hawaii.” He said that and the press didn’t do anything, but he absolutely negated his entire story.
And the real story is that his real father was this American Communist named Frank Marshall Davis and he was raised and indoctrinated by Davis. And it’s all in my film.
Porter Stansberry: Man, that is an incredible story. I got to learn more about it. Now, let me ask you a separate question. Do you think Obama will win in November?
Joel Gilbert: I don’t know. I don’t know. I think he has to come clean though. Instead of saying, “My father was a goat herder from Kenya,” he has to say and be elected on his merits, “My father was a Communist Party propagandist and Soviet agent. I want to destroy the American middle class and have a one party system. Please vote for me.” He has to come clean.
Porter Stansberry: Yeah, that’s probably—
Aaron Brabham: You know he’s not going to do that. There’s no way.
Joel Gilbert: He has to because Obama is what we call a red diaper baby. A red diaper baby means the child of a Communist Party U.S.A. member. All the leaders of the Marxist terrorist groups, the Weather Underground, the SBS, they were all children of Communist Party members. It’s a very common phenomena. They hand down their Marxist ideology.
By the way, David Axelrod, also a red diaper baby. His mother was a Communist journalist just like Obama’s father was a Communist journalist. Valerie Jarrett, her mother was in the Communist Party. Her father-in-law was at the Communist newspaper with Obama’s father in Chicago. It all goes back to Chicago. There’s a rat’s nest of Marxists in Chicago that moved to the White House and are trying to implement this system that is completely irreconcilable with American values. You can hear it in Obama’s speeches.
The rich don’t pay their fair share. The top one percent are oppressing everybody. If you built a business, it was on the backs of the proletariat. This is classic Marxist nonsense that has nothing to do with the reality of American life that Obama got from his real father who was a Communist Party propagandist.
Porter Stansberry: Great stuff. Joel, do you know Alex Jones, down in Texas?
Joel Gilbert: I’ve been on his show a few times.
Porter Stansberry: He would love this stuff.
Joel Gilbert: Yeah, I’ve been on his show about ten times. He knows all about it. You guys got to watch the DVD.
Porter Stansberry: He would eat this stuff up.
Joel Gilbert: This is, you know—where you been?
Porter Stansberry: I do. Where can I get a copy of it?
Joel Gilbert: You’re doing too much radio, not enough reality.
Porter Stansberry: Where can I get a copy of the DVD?
Joel Gilbert: Well, first of all on our web site. It’s obamasrealfather.com.
Porter Stansberry: All right.
Joel Gilbert: Secondly, it’s on Netflix streaming right now.
Porter Stansberry: Perfect.
Joel Gilbert: It’s on Amazon instant video, you can watch it right now.
Porter Stansberry: There you go. That’s the way I like to go. I like to go Amazon.
Joel Gilbert: Buy the DVD on Amazon and you guys could also ask my publicist. We’ll certainly send you a copy.
Porter Stansberry: All right, great. Hey listen, I got—I have one more question for you. Why do you think—I don’t want to dispute anything you said because I’m sure it’s very well researched and I’m sure you’ve got it exactly right—but the question I have is, if you’re right why hasn’t Obama done even more to tear down civil society in the United States?
Joel Gilbert: Well, what he did was he started his administration with the health care law, pushing it above everything else because that was a way to control the future. If you control people’s health care and then secondly double the food stamp roles, you control people’s vote. If you control their food and their health care you can control their vote.
Porter Stansberry: I agree with that.
Joel Gilbert: Everything he does has been to turn the tables and create a permanent Democrat in the White House so that the new Democrat Socialist party that’s been turned to the far left by these Socialists and Marxists out of Chicago can simply take their time implementing their system. So everything he’s done is political and is meant to have a lock on power for the future.
Porter Stansberry: So you think they’re kind of creeping. They’re kind of creeping in. They’re grabbing control of the power and then over time the fullness of their plan will become clear.
Joel Gilbert: That’s correct. Obama’s plan—well his latest code word is—he talks about middle class families, “I want to help middle class families.” The Socialists hate middle class. They think the middle class supports the capital system.
Porter Stansberry: The bourgeoisie.
Joel Gilbert: Well the middle class, that’s why Obama said they cling to their guns and religion. They can’t stand the middle class. To the Socialists, the middle class are pawns. So in the next term you’ll see that Socialist economies don’t have a middle class.
Porter Stansberry: How would you define middle class? I’m curious about this. Everyone uses this word but I’m not really sure I know what it means.
Joel Gilbert: Well, here’s what it is. We’ve never heard this term before. We’ve heard of upper, middle income. “Class” is a Marxist term and Obama introduced this into the dialogue. Unfortunately, Romney has adopted it for some reason. But the word “class,” we don’t have “classes” in America.
Porter Stansberry: All right, but politicians from as long as I can remember have been talking about the middle class. For me, it’s not a Soviet or a Marxist term. I’m just curious, how would you define it in terms of, you know, your average traditional American family; mom, dad, two and a half kids. What’s the household income for the middle class? What’s the range?
Joel Gilbert: Well I think you just described it. I think they—the range is probably anywhere from the, you know, $35,000, $40,000. That would be the lower middle class up to $100,000, $125,000, $150,000 would be considered the middle class. It’s actually the majority of everybody.
Porter Stansberry: All the way up to 150, huh? I really don’t—I’m asking sincerely, I don’t know what the income distribution rate is.
Joel Gilbert: I’m telling you, it simply means the majority of people that are not in poverty or not extremely rich. So it’s probably a good 90% of the country, maybe 80%. I’d like to tell you that by the end of Obama’s next term you’ll see, if he’s reelected, that the middle class healthcare will be given away to poor and illegals. You’ll see that middle class—
Porter Stansberry: Isn’t it already?
Joel Gilbert: It’s getting there. But middle class employers will be taxed and regulated out of business.
Porter Stansberry: That’s us.
Joel Gilbert: Middle class retirement—
Porter Stansberry: We’re done.
Joel Gilbert: Whatever retirement you have will be evaporated into this bankrupt socialist state. The middle class will simply disappear and America will have a large lower class with a group of political elites, meaning Obama and his friends, they’ll control the wealth and America will be irreversibly socialist without ever realizing how it happened. That’s the plan.
Porter Stansberry: Well, I see some of this stuff going on. I see a lot of—there’s a lot of planning in Washington to seize 401ks. And Aaron and I have a theory about how Obama will try to run for a third term.
Joel Gilbert: Well he doesn’t need to run for a third term if they put the next Chicago Marxist in there, whether it’s Hillary or anybody else, or Michelle for that matter. It just doesn’t matter.
Porter Stansberry: There you go.
Joel Gilbert: But they’re certainly implementing a permanent hold on power through food stamps, through healthcare, and by eliminating the middle class. Obama’s policy is a war against the middle class to destroy and eliminate the middle class. It’s in all the socialist literature. They hate the middle class, they cling to their guns and religion. And by eliminating them, that’s how these people seek to hold power permanently.
Porter Stansberry: I got lots of guns.
Aaron Brabham: Yeah. And you probably saw, Joel, in the New York Times, Chavez, Putin and Castro are all publicly endorsing Obama so I’m sure that fits perfectly into your story as well.
Joel Gilbert: Well, those are his comrades. Obama is comfortable with anti-American extremists and anti-American extremists are comfortable with Obama.
Aaron Brabham: Well, we appreciate it very much. And we’re going to call our publishers, go out and watch it. We’re gonna watch it ourselves.
Porter Stansberry: I gotta watch it today.
Aaron Brabham: Yes. Thanks so much for coming on.
Joel Gilbert: You have to watch it. Call me back, we’ll do it again once you’re up to speed on what’s going on.
Porter Stansberry: Okay Joel, thank you very much.
Aaron Brabham: You got it. Obamasrealfather.com, thank you so much.
Joel Gilbert: Thank you.
Porter Stansberry: Alex Jones would love him.
Aaron Brabham: He said he’s already been on ten times. I’m surprised Alex Jones doesn’t permanently have him on.
Porter Stansberry: I know. It’s an Alex Jones guy who’s actually done his homework.
Aaron Brabham: It’s a dream come true with a guy that, yeah, that has very few holes in it.
Porter Stansberry: I got to see a picture of this guy and Obama. We got to get that on the—go on the iPad. Bring it up on the iPad.
Aaron Brabham: I want to see that.
Porter Stansberry: We got to see if he really looks like him because I think that’s the sure litmus test. If he looks like him then I can go forward. If he doesn’t look like him then I’m not sure I can. But wouldn’t that be funny that the whole reason why the birth certificate thing was such a problem—
Aaron Brabham: Is because he has one but it’s to the wrong father.
Porter Stansberry: Yeah.
Aaron Brabham: Because he knew the whole time and that’s why they’re like, “Uh, yes he is a U.S. citizen but, oh, well—”
Porter Stansberry: So what was his name? Frank Marshall Davis right?
Aaron Brabham: Frank Marshall Davis.
Porter Stansberry: Yeah, okay. Got it, got it, got it.
Aaron Brabham: We’ll have to check it out, see what it’s all about. I don’t think it’s going to stop them. I don’t care if this documentary was distributed throughout the United States for free, it’s not going to stop Obama from getting elected though.
Porter Stansberry: No. There is one thing I will say about all this. I never did understand, even when it was happening in real time, how a lowly State Senator from Chicago could become a U.S. Senator and then the President all in like a decade, and never lose an election. It just—it seems strange the way that Obama’s political career was meteoric.
Aaron Brabham: Meteoric.
Porter Stansberry: There’s never been anything else like it except for maybe Kennedy. And Kennedy you could understand because he had the entire backing of his father and—
Aaron Brabham: He had a legacy.
Porter Stansberry: And all that wealth behind him and his dad was a bootlegger. His dad by the way, most people don’t know this, he was the first commissioner of the SEC. So if you ever wondered what the real purpose of the SEC is just remember that Joe Kennedy was the first commissioner. As we like to call it, it’s the Swindler’s Encouragement Committee.
Aaron Brabham: That’s a good term because that’s exactly what it is.
Porter Stansberry: But I don’t understand how Obama did it.
Aaron Brabham: I mean, it was meteoric. The guy came out of no where, harnesses all this power, and people were obsessed with him.
Porter Stansberry: Definitely. All right, hang on, hang on, I’m not quite done with this. I got to do one more thing. What was real father’s name, or his whatever, his namesake, what’s his name, Obama?
Aaron Brabham: Damn, I wanted to ask him about—I bet he thinks Dinesh’s Obama 2016 is a piece of crap.
Porter Stansberry: Oh, we should have asked him about that.
Aaron Brabham: Because he doesn’t expose that at all.
Porter Stansberry: Because these guys all hate each other.
Aaron Brabham: Oh, yeah they totally will compete against each other even though their agenda’s the same.
Porter Stansberry: What was Obama’s name? Barack Obama, Sr., here we go.
Aaron Brabham: You know what, that does lead it to be a little more shady because he even went out of the way to have a Barack Obama Sr., so how could anybody deny that it’s a Jr., it’s got to be his real father.
Porter Stansberry: Yeah. That’s pretty shady. So we brought up a picture of Frank Marshall and we brought up a picture of Barack Obama Sr. And I got to say, it’s no contest. Obama doesn’t look anything like Barack Obama Sr. He looks—he’s a spitting image of Frank Marshall Davis.
Aaron Brabham: Spitting image.
Porter Stansberry: Wow.
Aaron Brabham: Joel might be on to something here. I’m definitely going to watch the documentary.
Porter Stansberry: Wow.
Aaron Brabham: No wonder he’s been on Alex Jones ten times. It’s funny because before you brought it up I thought, “Joel needs to be on Alex Jones’ show.” That would be one of those where Alex Jones would talk to him for four straight hours.
Porter Stansberry: I just love it when you go into something and you’re a total skeptic and you hear the guy talk and you’re completely convinced.
Aaron Brabham: Yeah. And he was very like calm about his—he didn’t get all worked up like Dinesh. This guy had his facts.
Porter Stansberry: He was a little pissed that we weren’t more familiar with his story.
Aaron Brabham: Actually he was very angry that we hadn’t seen the documentary. He was shocked. I forgot what his quote was but he was very civil. Like, “Quit being radio guys and be real world guys.” Or something like that.
Porter Stansberry: Yes, yes. You know how much I like it when people tell me how to live.
Aaron Brabham: It’s your favorite thing.
Porter Stansberry: All right so, you know, call us respectfully intrigued with Mr. Joel Gilbert’s film.
Aaron Brabham: And if our listeners out there have seen this film, write to us. Give us your feedback. Say yay or nay if you think it’s legitimate.
Porter Stansberry: By the way, throw the guy a bone. Go to Amazon and—
Aaron Brabham: Pay the $2.99 for the 48 hour rental.
Porter Stansberry: Yeah, it’s not gonna kill ya.
Aaron Brabham: I agree with that. All right, Porter we had one of our listeners write in. William sent us this update; he might be Arbitron listener number one, “Your point that I wanted to discuss was Democrat party dominance in predominantly black districts. He’s from Chicago, which if you paid any attention to the news, and I know that you have, you know has had huge problems with gang gun violence on the South Side. A large part of the South Side would fall into Illinois’ second congressional district which has been held by a Democrat since 1953.
Jesse Jackson Jr. has held this district since 1995. Jesse Jackson Jr. we nominated before, but he is really struggling right now, to say the least. Like he’s not even campaigning. His wife’s company does consulting work for the campaign. She’s still getting paid $5,000 a month even though they’re not campaigning at all.” Everything just reeks of a disaster here. Anyways—
Porter Stansberry: He’ll be reelected though.
Aaron Brabham: Oh, no he’s killing it. He’s already—he’s winning by a 40% margin right now.
Porter Stansberry: This is the big nonsense with democracy.
Aaron Brabham: 40% margin.
Porter Stansberry: It’s ridiculous.
Aaron Brabham: Yeah it’s plain ridiculous. All right Porter, you can’t—
Porter Stansberry: By the way, I got to tell you guys this. Just saw the title of Joel Gilbert’s other film.
Aaron Brabham: Yeah I didn’t bring that up.
Porter Stansberry: I can’t even read it. The other film he has out right now is called, Paul McCartney Really is Dead: The Last Testament of George Harrison.
Aaron Brabham: I don’t even—I saw that and I just didn’t even know how to react to that. We’re seeing holograms.
Porter Stansberry: Oh my god, where do we get our guests? But hey listen, you know, you got to go look at the pictures online of Frank Davis.
Aaron Brabham: Frank Marshall Davis.
Porter Stansberry: Compared to—
Aaron Brabham: Barack Obama Jr.
Porter Stansberry: Barack Obama Sr.
Aaron Brabham: Oh yeah. Look at the senior, then look at him, and then look at Barack.
Porter Stansberry: Well, just because you’re a little crazy doesn’t mean you’re wrong.
Aaron Brabham: All right Porter, you talk a lot about social security being a Ponzi scheme, which it is, how about this idea—
Porter Stansberry: Aaron, where do we get these guys? I can’t take it anymore.
Aaron Brabham: Pretty entertaining.
Porter Stansberry: I wonder if his one-legged wife knew that when she married him.
Aaron Brabham: I don’t know but she—I think she walked away with like a 100M from that divorce, man. You want to talk about a fool.
Porter Stansberry: Talk about a crazy couple right. A model with one leg and a guy who’s dead.
Aaron Brabham: Well he’s been dead and—
Porter Stansberry: They must have been a huge hit at dinner parties.
Aaron Brabham: I’m pretty sure I saw the guy playing the Olympics but maybe that was somebody else, a hologram.
Porter Stansberry: Maybe the title is not—maybe it’s misleading.
Aaron Brabham: I think it is a little misleading.
Porter Stansberry: Maybe there’s something more.
Aaron Brabham: There’s a typo or something in there.
Porter Stansberry: I’m not so sure, having spoken with him. Well, now I got to go check it out.
Aaron Brabham: All right Porter, you talk a lot about social security being a Ponzi scheme, how about this idea from financial newsletter writer, Mark Scalson. He said about a web site, socialsecuritypledge.org—can you guess what socialsecuritypledge.org is?
Porter Stansberry: Well, for Mark Scalson there’s just no telling.
Aaron Brabham: Here’s what it is. He has a quote he says about social security, “As an ardent supporter of self reliance and a limited government, I also feel a little reluctant to accept social security payments when our government is so deeply in debt. While everyone can use a little extra cash, I don’t really need social security. I’ve worked hard, saved and invested to build up my net worth. I’ve paid off my mortgage and have both a company pension program and an individual retirement account. Like many wise Americans I’ve followed the golden principles of industry thrift and prudence advocated by Ben Franklin’s In the Way of Wealth.”
So after hearing his quote and quoting Ben Franklin, you would assume he would…
Porter Stansberry: Well I don’t know because the—let’s start with his logic. He said, “I’m reluctant to accept social security because I’m a rich man and the government is in debt.” In my mind that argument doesn’t hold water because he was taxed to contribute to the social security system for many, many years. And that the government now is in debt is not his problem. So I don’t see the logic of why he would give up his social security payments.
Aaron Brabham: Well he didn’t.
Porter Stansberry: Oh, okay.
Aaron Brabham: So his web site was called, socialsecuritypledge.org, is set up for you to accept your social security payments but he’s advocating using them for starting your own business, or for giving away to charity, or funding your grandchildren’s college.
Porter Stansberry: Well, how’s that any different than just accepting it?
Aaron Brabham: It’s the same thing.
Porter Stansberry: What a douche.
Aaron Brabham: It’s the same thing. He’s just kicking the can down the road to his grandchildren, even if he gives the money right back to them.
Porter Stansberry: He is a great embarrassment of the newsletter industry. So by the way, I will not accept social security payments. I will not file for them. I will never receive them. And I don’t think that any person of any ethic or character could do so. Why?
Well, because yes, I have paid into the social security system. I have paid millions into the social security system because I also pay on behalf of my employees. So I have paid more than just about anybody else out there. Now, I mean obviously there are people who have paid more than me, but not very many in terms of percentage of our audience. Not very many.
But I won’t take it. Why not? And I’m going to urge my employees not to accept it either. And I’m going to urge my friends and I’m going to urge you. Why? It has nothing to do with the government being broke. That has nothing to do with it at all. It has to do with the fact that the social security system itself is nothing more than a Ponzi scheme.
It was a Ponzi scheme from the very beginning and it’s only gotten worse over the years. What do I mean by that? Well, over the years the social security contributions have been increased 40 times. Social security taxes have been increased 40 times. They’ve had to do that to maintain the payouts as the number of recipients has grown.
If you look at the returns, over time the returns are falling. So people who were accepting social security in the 1970s, they’re getting paid like 2,500% returns. People who accepted during the 1980s, they were being paid like 700% returns on what they put in. People in the 1990s got all the way down to 400%. People in the 2000s, 250%.
Just like a Ponzi scheme, as the number of the payouts grow, the returns are collapsing. They’re collapsing in nominal—sorry they’re not collapsing in nominal terms because of inflation, they’re collapsing in real terms. So over time you will be paid less and less and less of your money back.
And then at about 2020 or so, the returns will go negative. So you will not be paid back your money. And by of course 2030, the returns will be vastly negative. And by 2040, even more so. To the point where at some point between 2020 and 2030, general taxes will have to be increased dramatically in order to meet simply the promised pay out.
Listen, that’s not okay with me. I don’t think it’s fair or right to take money from one person and promise it as a return on a pension to another person. It’s just a lie. It’s a con. It’s a scam. It’s a scheme. And it doesn’t matter to me that it’s organized by the government, it’s still criminal. It’s still absolutely the wrong thing to do.
It’s no different than what Madoff did. No different at all. And if you’re a willing participant then I think you are participating in a crime. That simple.
Aaron Brabham: I say we start the real socialsecuritypledge.org, and that’s what it is.
Porter Stansberry: Yeah, I will not accept it. I will not participate in a scheme that robs my children and grandchildren. I’m not going to do it. By the way, if you want to get real technical about it, you could figure out exactly what it is you had contributed and you could accept up until that amount.
But you know what people, I’ve gotten so much heat for saying these things. What people will say now is, “I only want what I put in, plus a fair return.” Well, guess what, you don’t get a return because the money was never invested. Let me say that again, the money was never invested.
In fact, all the money you’ve already contributed has already been spent because social security’s already taking money out of the general account to pay benefits. The money you put in is gone. It ain’t there. So stop pretending that it is and stop thinking that the money you’re collecting from social security above what it is you contributed was somehow manufactured through investments, or risk taking, or entrepreneurial activity.
It wasn’t. The return you got from social security was taken from someone else at the point of a gun. That’s a crime.
Aaron Brabham: I’m not taking the money. All right Porter, the U.S. Department of Energy provided a $151 million grant under Obama’s Recovery Act to a company in Michigan called LG Chem. LG Chem makes lithium ion batteries. Well, they attempt to make lithium ion batteries for what car?
Porter Stansberry: The Volt.
Aaron Brabham: The Volt. They have spent, what, $133 million of that money so far and they’ve produced zero batteries, and workers are playing cards and video games at work.
Porter Stansberry: What a shock.
Aaron Brabham: Because the orders haven’t come through.
Porter Stansberry: And cleaning. Cleaning the cafeteria.
Aaron Brabham: Well, the ones that feel guilty are the ones cleaning, but it’s not a mandatory thing to clean. One of the workers said, “There would be up to 40 of us that would just sit in there during the day. We were given assignments to go outside and clean. If we weren’t cleaning outside, we were cleaning inside. If there was nothing for us to do we would study in the cafeteria or we would sit and play cards, sit and read magazines.”
This is great. Great use of our taxpayer money. Oh by the way, Obama was so pumped about that he was personally there to do the ground breaking for the plant because it was gonna be so successful.
Porter Stansberry: Right, because electric cars are going to change the world.
Aaron Brabham: One more quick story and we got to wrap the show. A panhandler in Oklahoma City was arrested. He was told that he couldn’t panhandle without a permit, that he could get for $200. And you know what his reply back to the cop was, “That’s not that bad.” And when the cop said, “Well, why don’t you go get a job?” He said quote, “I’m lazy and I made $60,000 doing this last year. Why would I get a job?”
Porter Stansberry: Oh my god.
Aaron Brabham: Hey look, if you’re one of those suckers that just gives your money to these panhandlers, just stop it please.
Porter Stansberry: Stop.
Aaron Brabham: Like the guy that sits outside Chipotle, drives me crazy. Few e-mails and then we’ll get out of here.
Porter Stansberry: By the way, what’s the deal with a license to panhandle?
Aaron Brabham: I don’t know. I didn’t even know you could get anything—it must be some kind of permit to stand on that corner of the street.
Porter Stansberry: You got to be kidding. What kind of—where was that?
Aaron Brabham: It was in Oklahoma, which kind of explains a lot. Oklahoma’s definitely Midwest, weird place.
Porter Stansberry: I just—that’s just outrageous. A license to panhandle. I just don’t—I mean are you serious. So I can go downtown probably in Baltimore and get a license to be a bum.
Aaron Brabham: I can almost guarantee you can. You know why, because they’re broke and they need money and they’ll create a license for anything. But you might have to sleep outside for a night to qualify because they usually have some kind of course requirement.
Porters Stansberry: I got a guy working for me, Greg, you know, he’s working on a book with me. He flew out to eastern Washington last week. Drove around in a rental car looking for jobs picking apples. No experience required. Got several job offers and I think he took them for the day. Picking apples at like—he made something like $35 an hour. And he said, “There’s as many jobs out there as anyone wants.”
Aaron Brabham: I love this. This is very true. It’s the Washington apple guy out there that we talked about a couple weeks ago.
Porter Stansberry: He flew out there to see if it was real.
Aaron Brabham: He just did it.
Porter Stansberry: Yeah, did it. And so what I want—the point of all this is, for people who are looking for work in our country, there’s plenty of work available. Plenty. But instead, we’ve got soaring unemployment apparently, right. And Greg also told me that the unemployment benefits in Washington state, from the state, were like $16,000 a year.
Aaron Brabham: What?
Porter Stansberry: Yeah. So he’s like, “That’s why they can’t get anyone to pick the apples because the government’s sending them checks.”
Aaron Brabham: Why would you? Yeah, paid to sit at home.
Porter Stansberry: I’ve had it. What kind of a world do we live in when casinos are popping up everywhere like mushrooms, but people apparently have no money to feed their kids. Horse [censored]. Everyone says, “Oh, I can’t get a job.” But there are all kinds of jobs that are going unfilled.
Aaron Brabham: Like you say, they’re sitting at home with their flat screen TV’s with their Obama phone and they’re going to get blue crabs at the market with T-bone steaks and lobsters using their EBT to go home and cook gourmet meals. Why would you?
Porter Stansberry: I’ve had it. I’ve had it.
Aaron Brabham: Why would you work?
Porter Stansberry: I’ve had enough. I can’t take it anymore. I’m not going to buy anything from anywhere that accepts an EBT card anymore.
Aaron Brabham: Then don’t shop. Don’t shop because everywhere—I guarantee Whole Foods takes them. Just don’t even shop then.
Porter Stansberry: It’s just despicable. And how Orwellian is it that they call them “independence cards.” It’s just crap.
Aaron Brabham: It’s crazy. All right, we’re gonna take a quick break to hear from one of our sponsors.
Aaron Brabham: All right, we got a few voicemails. Tim, fire them up.
Speaker 1: Porter marrying a very beautiful woman, my cousin David did the same thing. I was talking to him over the weekend and he shared a story with me that he and his wife, and his friend Randy, and Randy’s wife had gone to dinner in Minneapolis. And a gentleman walked up to both of the men and said, “I don’t understand how two guys as ugly as you managed to land such two beautiful women as your wives.” And without missing a beat Randy turned to the guy and said, “Well, we didn’t ask out any of the ugly ones.” Keep up the good work.
Porter Stansberry: I like that. That’s nice.
Aaron Brabham: He had the cojones to ask out the hot ones.
Porter Stansberry: I’m not sure how I would react if someone said that to me.
Aaron Brabham: Yeah it wouldn’t feel good.
Porter Stansberry: Well, I say it all the time. I tell people I married out of my league.
Aaron Brabham: Well, I’ve over dated my whole life. And I’m sure people are like, “Oh, it’s a little short stocky dude.”
Porter Stansberry: You’re a pretty handsome guy.
Aaron Brabham: I’m five, six and a half, dude.
Porter Stansberry: So.
Aaron Brabham: I’m not tall, dark and handsome. But I do keep in good shape, that’s a fact. Thanks for saying that. You’re handsome yourself. I mean—
Porter Stansberry: To my mother.
Aaron Brabham: I remember when you were diesel but those days are— have passed you by a little bit.
Porter Stansberry: Thanks for bringing that up.
Aaron Brabham: You still look good. But your pocketbook looks fantastic.
Porter Stansberry: There’s still diesel underneath this.
Aaron Brabham: I agree. Size 54. All right, next.
Speaker 2: When I was in class in high school I’d read all the _____ in English literature in three weeks. _____ the only classes I liked were geometry and shop classes. The other ones I’m like, “Eh, why am I here?” You know, you sit there all day. Learn a trade, go out and work ____ labor like the one guy did in the 1850s. He was 12 years old he started making _____. 21 years old he was ____ his own factory.
Don’t give the kids Dexedrine or Ritalin, settle them down and send them off _____ drug abuse. Then they got to overcome that. I know this. I know this. All right, bye, bye.
Aaron Brabham: I don’t even know how to reply to that. Other than I feel like he might have taken some Adderall before he made that call.
Porter Stansberry: Oh my god. I got lost. I heard child labor, which I’m all in favor for.
Aaron Brabham: Got to learn sometime.
Porter Stansberry: Yeah. Put them to work.
Speaker 3: I’m like Aaron, I’m not a 100 percenter. I do have to give a little dissidence every once in a while. However, I know I’m getting what I pay for. As an entrepreneur, I never went to college. As a result of that, I went to the school of hard knocks and education, experience, and trial and error and have been able to acquire a pretty nice portfolio of rental properties. I have a couple of small businesses that I operate, my wife and I do.
Unless there’s a reason why you want to be a doctor, you want to be a lawyer, you want to be in dental, you want to do something that is going to require you to have a college degree, I’m not going to promote or encourage my children to go to college. I do enjoy the horse laugh. I may spend my money on that if it becomes an iTunes ring tone.
Porter Stansberry: The horse laugh is worth it.
Aaron Brabham: It’s gonna be 99 cents, you can afford it. You’re an entrepreneur, you did well. You did fine.
Porter Stansberry: Hey, congratulations by the way. I want to applaud every listener out there that’s an entrepreneur, that’s a self made guy. People who have never started their own business, they have no idea how scary it is. They have no idea how hard it is. And they’ll never know how rewarding it is if you succeed. So big props to the entrepreneurs.
Well before we wrap up the show today, I wonder Aaron if you could tell us where we are now on Arbitron?
Aaron Brabham: 51.
Porter Stansberry: 51.
Aaron Brabham: We’ve passed the half century mark.
Porter Stansberry: And I want to tell everybody that we’re going to be developing some kind of a premium share model. It won’t cost much to get a lot more from us. Hope you’ll consider it because we really need a new studio in the worst way. We’re basically operating in a dungeon with very bad lighting, lots of dust, and terrible plastic boom mikes.
Aaron Brabham: But the good news is it’s in Baltimore. And one of the parts that’s not the best part of Baltimore, but it’s way better than the other parts.
Porter Stansberry: Oh man, I had to step over a very large piece of dog poop to get to the building today.
Aaron Brabham: Well, I stepped over a dead body. So take that. That’s a little too much. That’s our show for today. We want to thank you for listening. As always, send us your feedback at email@example.com. Call us, 855-727-2346. Hit us up on YouTube, Facebook, all that type of good stuff. The next guest on our show next week will be senior fellow of history at the Mises Institute, and creator of the new documentary The Bubble, Thomas E. Woods.
Porter Stansberry: Oh, yeah. Very smart guy.
Aaron Brabham: So we look forward to that interview. I know that you’ll have some very good questions for him. Kind of an Austrian economics base.
Porter Stansberry: Yeah he’s gonna—if you’ve read my work on inflation over the years, this guy—all of his stuff will dovetail very nicely into that.
Aaron Brabham: And if you’re at the Alliance Conference this week, because that’s where we’re going tomorrow—
Porter Stansberry: Please say hello.
Aaron Brabham: Please say hello and I know that we’re gonna have a little bit of a Stansberry Radio goodies to give out.
Porter Stansberry: Yeah, come get your swag.
Aaron Brabham: Come get your swag.
Porter Stansberry: And tell us that you hate the show and you never listen to it.
Aaron Brabham: Well tell him, not me, because I’m still too sensitive. I’m learning that whole thing. But tell him to say it behind my back. It makes me feel better.
Porter Stansberry: Come say hi in Seattle.
Aaron Brabham: All right, we’ll see you guys later.
Porter Stansberry: Bye, bye.
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